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of texas and mexico, the u.s. border with mexico is safer than it's ever been. well, let me tell you,vy been dealing with this issue for 11 years. i sent texas ranger recon teams there. the law enforcement men and women. face fire from across the border, on the u.s. side from the drug cartels. it is not safe there. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america, from iran, from hezbollah, from hamas, that are using mexico as a border, as a way to penetrate in the southern part of the united states, venezuela has the largest iranian embassy in the world there. we know what is going on. it is time for this country to have a real conversation about a monroe doctrine again like we did against the cubans in the '60s. >> megyn: senator santorum what say you to the attorney general's game that the republicans are politicizing this issue? >> i agree with governor perr perry. if he was the attorney general under me, i'd fire him. not have him resign. fire him. this is something he should have been
of texas and mexico, the u.s. border with mexico is safer than it's ever been. well, let me tell you,vy been dealing with this issue for 11 years. i sent texas ranger recon teams there. the law enforcement men and women. face fire from across the border, on the u.s. side from the drug cartels. it is not safe there. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america, from iran, from hezbollah, from hamas, that are using mexico as a border, as a way to penetrate in the...
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several states including texas banned the practice. in dallas, kris gutierrez, fox news. >> bret: from horses to the presidential horse race. the fox all-stars join me early. early panel time. get ready to talk about the developments in the 2012 campaign next. >>> how much money did you make from the newsletters? these things are really nasty. he didn't know about it? wasn't aware of it? he is sufficiently ready to be president? strikes me as raising fundamental questions about it. >> i don't think anybody called me racist. what could be a correct charge is i was negligent as publisher of a newsletter and not paying attention. it's ironic as a civil libertarian i champion the civil libertys and regardless of race, creed or color. >> bret: congressman ron paul responding to charge, questions, brought up by newt gingrich and others about the newsletters from the 1980s and '90s. in them, they were undercongressman paul's name. one of them from the '90s, positio'93, contained his signa. the campaign says it was auto pen. but in the news le
several states including texas banned the practice. in dallas, kris gutierrez, fox news. >> bret: from horses to the presidential horse race. the fox all-stars join me early. early panel time. get ready to talk about the developments in the 2012 campaign next. >>> how much money did you make from the newsletters? these things are really nasty. he didn't know about it? wasn't aware of it? he is sufficiently ready to be president? strikes me as raising fundamental questions about...
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i have sent texas ranger recon team there is. our law enforcement law men and -women face gunfire from drug cartels. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america from iran, from hez bowl afrom hamas, that are using mexico as a border -- as a way to penetrate into the southern part of the united states, venezuela has the largest iranian embassy in the world there. we know what's going on. it is time for this country to have a real conversation about a monroe doctrine again, like we did against the cubans in the 60s. >> megyn: senator santorum, what do you think about the attorney general's claim that the republicans are politicizing this issue? >> i would agree with governor perry, that if he were the attorney general under me, i would fire him. this is something he should have been aware of. shouldn't have started in the first place. i think that governor perry is right. this something i have been saying now for many years, which is we need to pay much more attention to what is going on in our own hemi
i have sent texas ranger recon team there is. our law enforcement law men and -women face gunfire from drug cartels. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america from iran, from hez bowl afrom hamas, that are using mexico as a border -- as a way to penetrate into the southern part of the united states, venezuela has the largest iranian embassy in the world there. we know what's going on. it is time for this country to have a real conversation about a monroe doctrine...
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texas the supreme court struck down the anti-sodomy law in texas and 13 other states. this happened in 2003, when perry was in fact serving as governor of texas.ç >> his question is how do i -- how do i defend my criticism of limited government in the lawrence v. texas. listen, here's -- here's the issue that i have. i don't dislike government. i just want government to work. i wish i could tell you i knew every supreme court case. i don't. i'm not even going to try to go through every supreme court case. that would be -- you know, i'm not a lawyer. but here's what i do know. i know they're spending too much money in washington, d.c. and $15 trillion worth of debt is on the back of that young man right there. and if we don't go in and cut the size of government, court cases aren't going to make one tinker's heck. >> one tinker's heck. that's the word that showed up in my prompter. i don't know what that means. the "texas tribune" pointed out that perry actually cited that case, lawrence v. texas, in his book "fed up" in a chapter called "nine unelected judges tell us
texas the supreme court struck down the anti-sodomy law in texas and 13 other states. this happened in 2003, when perry was in fact serving as governor of texas.ç >> his question is how do i -- how do i defend my criticism of limited government in the lawrence v. texas. listen, here's -- here's the issue that i have. i don't dislike government. i just want government to work. i wish i could tell you i knew every supreme court case. i don't. i'm not even going to try to go through every...
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several states including texas banned the practice. in dallas, kris gutierrez, fox news. >> bret: from horses to the presidential horse race. the fox all-stars join me early. early panel time. get ready to talk about the developments in the 2012 campaign next. [ male announcer ] the more you lose, the more you lose, because for every two pounds you lose through diet and exercise, alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. let's fight fat with alli. ♪ lord of the carry-on. sovereign of the security line. you never take an upgrade for granted. and you rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay th mid-size price. i deserve this. [ male announcer ] you do, business pro. you do. go national. go like a pro. did you hear sam... ...got promoted to director? so 12 seconds ago. we should get him a present. thanks for the gift basket. you're welcome. you're welcome. did you see hr just sent out new... ...office rules? cau
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texas is a great example. he wants the state of texas to basically make being gay illegal if they want to. and we hope there's a higher court, the supreme court that will stop that from happening under a ron paul presidency. >> yeah. this is pretty much in the context of paul trying to disavow other extreme positions in these newsletters years ago that are now dogging his campaign. paul wants to be bold, but he also seems to attract, you know, a fringe element that's out there. and it is out in iowa. the guy does have support. he's getting massive crowds compared to the other candidates. what do you make of all of this? >> well, i think a lot of it is pretty kind of crazy marketing. because what he's really hoping for is a kind of reconstructionist growth where christian law and the bible are what become one law with the civil law. it's interesting. these are the guys who screamed the most about the infringement of sharia law supposedly coming to our country, but what they want, or what michele bachmann ç wen
texas is a great example. he wants the state of texas to basically make being gay illegal if they want to. and we hope there's a higher court, the supreme court that will stop that from happening under a ron paul presidency. >> yeah. this is pretty much in the context of paul trying to disavow other extreme positions in these newsletters years ago that are now dogging his campaign. paul wants to be bold, but he also seems to attract, you know, a fringe element that's out there. and it is...
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we begin with chief political correspondent carl cameron following texas congressman ron paul today. good evening, carl. >> reporter: hi, shannon. front-runners have come and gone in the race. for months we said in the end it would come down to photo finish at the wire. now the polls suggest about 30 to 40% of iowa caucus goers are undecided and now comes the final sprint to find those who may still change their minds. iowa speedway, ron paul marveled as all the attention he got as front runner heading to the finish line in the presidential caucus. >> i am pleased to be here. this does look like there are more cameras than there used to be. >> reporter: the volatility of the iowa battle between paul and mitt romney is net today's poll. democratic leaning public policy poll has paul leading by 4%. cnn survey says romney leads. paul is second. rick santorum moved to third ahead of newt gingrich. santorum trashed ron paul for downplaying the threat of a nuclear iran. paul cast himself as incorruptible and slams his rivals in a new ad for the final iowa sprint. >> politicians who support
we begin with chief political correspondent carl cameron following texas congressman ron paul today. good evening, carl. >> reporter: hi, shannon. front-runners have come and gone in the race. for months we said in the end it would come down to photo finish at the wire. now the polls suggest about 30 to 40% of iowa caucus goers are undecided and now comes the final sprint to find those who may still change their minds. iowa speedway, ron paul marveled as all the attention he got as front...
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>> texas alone we have 22 tho,0 members. texas is a big state for us. they love him. they think he's been very good for their state. >> do they recognize him on the presidential trail? >> they don't, actually. i had such great expectations. they said you're not seeing the man that we know yet. we hope he has time to recover. let me tell you what you're seeing is not as good as he can do. he can be better. so i'm very hopeful. i hope that he gets another chance, takes a breath of fresh air and goes for it. >> i remember a lot of people in massachusetts saying that about micha michael dukakis. then we saw what happened to him. newt gingrich who was mentioned a moment ago, he is up in the polls. when you go up in the polls you get the kick me sign on your back. ron paul says i can't believe newt gingrich is the front-runner. >> fannie mae and freddie mac had to be bailed out. we had to pay those debts. here he was getting a lot of money from them. and it's not a conservative position. it's a bailout position. so he made money off the bailout. it's sort of ironic to think
>> texas alone we have 22 tho,0 members. texas is a big state for us. they love him. they think he's been very good for their state. >> do they recognize him on the presidential trail? >> they don't, actually. i had such great expectations. they said you're not seeing the man that we know yet. we hope he has time to recover. let me tell you what you're seeing is not as good as he can do. he can be better. so i'm very hopeful. i hope that he gets another chance, takes a breath...
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carl cameron has been following texas congressman ron paul and he will tell us what has been going on. steve brown will report on who actually participates in these caucuses. are they younger? are they older? how many are actually republicans. why percentage of iowans actually go to the caucuses? president obama continues his vacation in hawaii. tonight, we look at some of the things that might be on the president's mind right now. plus, the u.s. has responded to iran threat to close the strait of hormuz. jennifer griffin is watching that story for us from the pentagon. in the grapevine, the u.s. takes criticism for its human rights record from a very questionable authority. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern, but now, back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back to "the five." for over eight years brave men and women risked their lives every day for freedom in iraq. more than a week ago, the last troops were pulled out of the country. and the war technically ended. the obama administration isn't planning a parade for troops to celebrate their ho
carl cameron has been following texas congressman ron paul and he will tell us what has been going on. steve brown will report on who actually participates in these caucuses. are they younger? are they older? how many are actually republicans. why percentage of iowans actually go to the caucuses? president obama continues his vacation in hawaii. tonight, we look at some of the things that might be on the president's mind right now. plus, the u.s. has responded to iran threat to close the strait...
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. >>> part of the internet universe is mourning the death of a texas teen who shared his remarkable story with tens of thousands of viewers. ben breedlove of austin died christmas night, but he may have left the world a brighter place. the story from kxan. >> thanks for watching breedlove tv on casual wednesday. >> for the last two years, ben breedlove has built a following online. >> i thought it would be cool if i gave you creative ideas to ask someone -- >> youtube videos full of dating advice. >> tonight we're going to be going over what age is the best age to start dating. it could be anything from a birthday, christmas. >> girls from germany and australia would message him and ask him for advice. girls in town would treat him like a celebrity. >> reporter: ben also spoke candidly about the heart condition he was born with. >> the doctor said since he was young, he would not make it past his young teen years, and he beat that. >> reporter: on christmas day at the age of 18 his time came. >> we woke up really early at 8:00, and opened presents and played a game of monopoly that ben wo
. >>> part of the internet universe is mourning the death of a texas teen who shared his remarkable story with tens of thousands of viewers. ben breedlove of austin died christmas night, but he may have left the world a brighter place. the story from kxan. >> thanks for watching breedlove tv on casual wednesday. >> for the last two years, ben breedlove has built a following online. >> i thought it would be cool if i gave you creative ideas to ask someone -- >>...
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hood texas. they all need a ride out of camp virginia in kuwait tonight. they will be airborne while most americans are asleep. our chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in baghdad where he lived for many years covering this war and where he covered today's ceremony. richard, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. for the more than one million u.s. troops who served in iraq, this is the end of an era. the iraq war defined their lives, in some cases ended their lives, and now it's over. ♪ >> reporter: for a big war, it was a remarkably small closing ceremony. a few hundred troops, a five-piece band on a base by the airport on the edge of baghdad. but with the casing of the colors, the u.s. military command in iraq ended a mission that began what feels like so long ago. >> we cannot know the duration of this war. yet we know its outcome. we will prevail. >> reporter: at least now we know the duration. america's costliest war in decades officially ended today. >> your nation is deeply indebted to you. you have done everything your nation ask
hood texas. they all need a ride out of camp virginia in kuwait tonight. they will be airborne while most americans are asleep. our chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in baghdad where he lived for many years covering this war and where he covered today's ceremony. richard, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. for the more than one million u.s. troops who served in iraq, this is the end of an era. the iraq war defined their lives, in some cases ended their lives, and...
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let's continue with texas governor rick perry. the first segment from pam bondi. >> thank you, governor, is the state continuually fails parents and children through inadequate education, does the federal government have the obligation to intervene on the education of the children? >> no, and here's the reason why. if you believe in the 10th amendment and if you believe that those people in the state are going to impact the legislators, they will do that. and i think that is a situation that we would not find ourselves in because by the time a school failed, the children or the parents would have intervened and the legislators would have intervened. our problem is a federal government who is intervening too much with programs. i truly believe that the education of the children is a state and local issue and the federal government needs to stay out. >> talking about all of these programs, governor. would you get rid of federal assistance for school lunch and pel grants. gi bill? >> absolutely. there is a better way to those dollars
let's continue with texas governor rick perry. the first segment from pam bondi. >> thank you, governor, is the state continuually fails parents and children through inadequate education, does the federal government have the obligation to intervene on the education of the children? >> no, and here's the reason why. if you believe in the 10th amendment and if you believe that those people in the state are going to impact the legislators, they will do that. and i think that is a...
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we have more people injured in texas if we block granted? i would suggest yes and substantially more so then you've got to have the freedom to implement that program and we don't have that today. >> on your postcard their it clear how fill out that program say 20% of your income is that what you're saying? would >> i'm saying if you did that to your mortgage insurance and torture of a bowl to the culture -- local taxes, tax goes away, obviously important to audio and any state that has substantial the agricultural interest the tax would go away and i don't know if i said dividends, talks would go away as well, and then you take 20% of that number and that would be your personal income. >> what about family that doesn't own a home and does not have capital gains liability? do they pay 20% of their income? >> yes. >> that somebody like you that owns a home -- ka >> rebuilding. there is an act of arson and 05 and 07 so we haven't been living for four years. >> i did have a conversation with my daughter so i had homeownership. someone that has t
we have more people injured in texas if we block granted? i would suggest yes and substantially more so then you've got to have the freedom to implement that program and we don't have that today. >> on your postcard their it clear how fill out that program say 20% of your income is that what you're saying? would >> i'm saying if you did that to your mortgage insurance and torture of a bowl to the culture -- local taxes, tax goes away, obviously important to audio and any state that...
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you had a chance to speak to the texas governor. how did that go? >> i said governor, if i take that literally, is what you're saying ihe joint up the first three quarters and you're going to find a way to win at the end? >> there may be some out there my first three debates that say we stunk it up pretty bad, but we've had three really good debates and last night, i think we had the opportunity to really get our message home and hammer it home about being an outsider, about getting this country back working. so that's my goal is to tim tebow, i got great respect for him. both a man of faith and quite a talent and lot of people said he couldn't make it. couldn't do it and he's showing them wrong. >> showing them wrong is what rick perry says he's going to do in iowa. very important, the tim tebow reference, not only a sports reference, but a devout christian. even a lot of the people here at this event, rick perry was campaigning here at the copper cuff cafe, a lot of people, several evangelical voters here, women, who said they're torn between bach
you had a chance to speak to the texas governor. how did that go? >> i said governor, if i take that literally, is what you're saying ihe joint up the first three quarters and you're going to find a way to win at the end? >> there may be some out there my first three debates that say we stunk it up pretty bad, but we've had three really good debates and last night, i think we had the opportunity to really get our message home and hammer it home about being an outsider, about getting...
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of texas and mexico, the u.s. border with mexico is safer than it's ever been. well, let me tell you,vy been dealing with this issue for 11 years. i sent texas ranger recon teams there. the law enforcement men and women. face fire from across the border, on the u.s. side from the drug cartels. it is not safe there. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america, from iran, from hezbollah, from hamas, that are using mexico as a border, as a way to penetrate in the southern part of the united states, venezuela has the largest iranian embassy in the world there. we know what is going on. it is time for this country to have a real conversation about a monroe doctrine again like we did against the cubans in the '60s. >> megyn: senator santorum what say you to the attorney general's game that the republicans are politicizing this issue? >> i agree with governor perr perry. if he was the attorney general under me, i'd fire him. not have him resign. fire him. this is something he should have been
of texas and mexico, the u.s. border with mexico is safer than it's ever been. well, let me tell you,vy been dealing with this issue for 11 years. i sent texas ranger recon teams there. the law enforcement men and women. face fire from across the border, on the u.s. side from the drug cartels. it is not safe there. our country is in jeopardy. if we are going to be able to defend america, from iran, from hezbollah, from hamas, that are using mexico as a border, as a way to penetrate in the...
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you will want to hear the texas response as this case hits "kelly's court." ng quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole gin oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios. megyn: a fox news alert. the national labor relations board dropped its complaint against boeing over the plane maker's decision to put a plant in south carolina. the union complained about the project not being located in state, but in a right to work state in south carolina. but now there is a new contract that includes a promise to make a new jet in the seattle
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the crucial iowa caucus is less than a month away z n exclusive interview with texas governor rick perry. and this year's heisman trophy going to baylor university robert griffin. griffin says winning is unbelievable. for all of your latest headlines log on to fox news.com. griffin iii of baylor university. >> nobody in the justice department has lied. >> why was the letter withdrawn? >> the letter was withdrawn because there is information in there that is inaccurate. the justice department letter of february -- >> tell me what is the difference between lying and misleading congress in this context? >> well, if you want to have this legal conversation it all have to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the recruiting whic requisite p with something that could be considered perjury or a lie. >> judge jeanine: eric holder on the hot seat this week. grilled over the pfiasco of fast and furious. >> he and his fellow agents spot a group of illegal immigrants carrying ak 47s. they order them to drop their weapons but the illegals refuse and instead opened fire, killing agent
the crucial iowa caucus is less than a month away z n exclusive interview with texas governor rick perry. and this year's heisman trophy going to baylor university robert griffin. griffin says winning is unbelievable. for all of your latest headlines log on to fox news.com. griffin iii of baylor university. >> nobody in the justice department has lied. >> why was the letter withdrawn? >> the letter was withdrawn because there is information in there that is inaccurate. the...
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ricky, boy, i don't notice you volunteered to be in military, you big tough texas boy. >> eric: no, no. i think he was in the military. >> kimberly: he was. >> greg: air force. pilot. >> kimberly: that's right. air force doesn't count. >> bob: that is great. congratulations. you still need a better camera shot. secondly -- >> andrea: a hero. >> bob: a cheap political shot. >> eric: what service was barack obama part of? refresh my memory. >> kimberly: the organizer. paper cuts are dangerous. >> bob: i don't think there is a male or female at this table can be talking about -- unless i missed something. >> kimberly: i do my outreach. c'mon! >> bob: i bet you do. >> andrea: the president can have troops at the white house. he has had them there before. a lot of troops will welcome home in their own community. >> bob: michelle obama does a lot of work. >> andrea: she does. >> bob: what? >> kimberly: she is number three in our poll. >> bob: you like dogs. say something -- >> eric: good boy. barack obama named the dog bo. wow. save us. >> greg: the guys did a great thing for the world, and
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they're from texas. at the mention of zz top he shared a personal moment he had with the band. one of the fun things i got to do was play with zz top. the best beards of all. governor perry did play with them at a bush inaugural event in 2005. rick perry loves beards. once is amazing, twice is a coincidence. but three times here is kind of a trend. based on the magical three instant sample set, governor rick perry is an entertainedly and fondly proud of the beards. you openly loving beards to the need of touching them on
they're from texas. at the mention of zz top he shared a personal moment he had with the band. one of the fun things i got to do was play with zz top. the best beards of all. governor perry did play with them at a bush inaugural event in 2005. rick perry loves beards. once is amazing, twice is a coincidence. but three times here is kind of a trend. based on the magical three instant sample set, governor rick perry is an entertainedly and fondly proud of the beards. you openly loving beards to...
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bush and people in texas say don't mess with texas. the evangelical right here has the same attitude -- don't mess with israel. that has a huge foreign policy effects in the political marketplace. we might disagree whether it should, but in fact is and does. thank you for your call. this is michael. good morning. what's on your mind? >> i was listening to ron paul earlier when he said he did not accept the retirement package. i wanted to ask him if he ever thought of asking the senators to make three times the average salary if they should be paying for their own health care, their own insurance for their cars, their own gas like the average person does instead of what their $175,000 a year. we have to pay for all of these things for them. when you save pennies, it runs into dollars. >> i will leave that as a rhetorical question well stated. thank you. this is taught. good morning. >> our you doing? >> i'm great. thank you for calling. >> that like to say to everyone in iowa, if you're not thinking of voting for ron paul, you get a sec
bush and people in texas say don't mess with texas. the evangelical right here has the same attitude -- don't mess with israel. that has a huge foreign policy effects in the political marketplace. we might disagree whether it should, but in fact is and does. thank you for your call. this is michael. good morning. what's on your mind? >> i was listening to ron paul earlier when he said he did not accept the retirement package. i wanted to ask him if he ever thought of asking the senators...
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michael from texas. >> mary mcmahon, clinton, tennessee. >> you have to relax, mary. i simply gave her age. madonna is 53 years old. >> that's what we are aiming for, denise, thanks for reading the book. from fort benning, georgia. >> bless you for your service. i hope the books do that for you, and please don't hold them against me. and finally. >> post attacked christie recently because of his weight so he threw it right back at him. >> when there are people talking about the idea of me running for president, you had columnists in this newspaper writing that somebody that is overweight can't possibly be president. >> what did you think of that? >> it's idiot tick. because what these guys got, well, because he'sover weight, that means he's undisciplined. >> but governor, that's not why they wrote it. it's because you are a conservative republican, that's why they wrote it. they don't care if you are overweight or not. so for calling out the washington post, he is a patriot. check out the fox news website which is different than bill billoreilly.com. also, spout out a
michael from texas. >> mary mcmahon, clinton, tennessee. >> you have to relax, mary. i simply gave her age. madonna is 53 years old. >> that's what we are aiming for, denise, thanks for reading the book. from fort benning, georgia. >> bless you for your service. i hope the books do that for you, and please don't hold them against me. and finally. >> post attacked christie recently because of his weight so he threw it right back at him. >> when there are...